By: Admin Pastor Manny
GOT DIALOGUE: A DISCUSSION ON JAMES 2:24
Here, I have a dialogue with a volunteer and in this excerpt, you can see that he agreed with my interpretation of James 2:24 that being justified by works has something to do with salvation. If you want to see the 7-page dialogue that we have, you can message us and I will give you the WORD file document.
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• DCF
so, when James pointed out that a man can’t be saved by dead faith (and Catholics have a different view on this one though we have the same conclusions), that’s the same on verse 24 when he said that a man is not justified by faith that is alone or faith that is dead…right?
• GotQuestions
James is referring back to that dead faith in verse 14 like you were saying?
• DCF
are you asking me?…I’m confused with your question mark at the end…haha
• GotQuestions
Yeah, well my conclusion for that passage is that faith and work have to go together
• GotQuestions
a person says that he is saved, but didn’t show work, his faith is dead
• GotQuestions
that’s what James is sayin
• GotQuestions
that’s why James says that not faith alone but works also
• DCF
ok…so the word Justified in verse 24 is actually saved or used in the context of salvation going back to verse 14…right?
• GotQuestions
it’s not same word, but yes it goes back to verse 14
• GotQuestions
meaning dead faith = faith without works
• DCF
ok…so in verse 24
• DCF
24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
• DCF
do you believe that when the author said that a man is justified by works as a contrast to the dead faith that justification by works after a man is initially justified is related in salvation?
• GotQuestions
what do you mean
• GotQuestions
help me understand it better
• DCF
well, in verse 24, James made an argument
• DCF
1. a man is justified by works (whatever that means)
• DCF
2. a man is not justified by faith that is alone or faith that is dead
• DCF
and, because you agree with me that when St. james mentioned his second point that the concept of justification is related to the concept of salvation because it is a repetition of verse 14…
• DCF
if that is the case, can we read that consistently in verse 24 that a man is justified (in the context of salvation) by works and not by faith alone (or that a man is not saved by faith that is dead)?
• GotQuestions
Sure
• GotQuestions
i would not agree with man is solely justified work alone either
• GotQuestions
you have to bundle them together
• DCF
ahhh..that’s a strange, we don’t believe that a person is saved by work alone
• DCF
by the way, here in my country, it’s 11:25 pm, so, thanks for your time…
• GotQuestions
thanks
• GotQuestions
please come back and talk to us again
• DCF
bye and GOD BLESS
